Harley is a curator, researcher, and the kind of person who could make any topic interesting. We settled on talking about the ups and downs of friendship.

This episode is with one of my closest and dearest friends Kia. I met Kia during my college prep year in Berlin. I was quickly struck by her intelligence and self-assurance and have felt very strongly about her ever since. Kia has gone through some huge changes in her life, a big one being her recent divorce from her high school sweetheart. We talk about the aftermath of such a huge change as well as our friendship. It’s pretty damn long, but that’s only because we had too much to talk about!